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(ShinKu_Ryu)
10-10-2005, 06:14 AM
<span style='color:green'>As you all know that there has been many claims that there might be life in outer space and that we humans are not the only ones. Is there a chance that this may be true at all or is it just scientist's playing with their imaginations!

below is a link to what this topic is about...::

Scientists Claim Evidence of Life in Outer Space (http://www.space.com/searchforlife/bacteria_space_010731.html)

There has been claims of alien adoption's, flying sourcers..etc
and some while ago i was watching discovery, the said that they found evidence that life might had exsisted on Mars.

Life on Mars? (http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/marslife.html)</span>
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<span style='color:blue'>My Opinion


Personally as far as it goes for me...also im christian, so definetly i dont belive that there is any &quot;&quot;other&quot;&quot; life in outer space. There are all wild imaginations which are trying to lead people far from the truth, which scince has already done &quot;saying that we evolved from what ever they want to call it..apes or so and much ,etc...

-There is no life in outer space
-God created the heavens and earth, earth didnt just accidently form buy its self and we humans &quot;evoloved&quot;
-As far as it goes with aliens , maybe it is possible but im not sure what to make of it:
-Think of how many claims there has been of &quot;&quot;life in outer space..none has been found since their imaginations started playing with their minds!
-scince will come up with anything to try to put our minds away from the truth

A discovery i watched last night about leo and mike the robots visiting some other planet in outer space and found &quot;life&quot;, i mean they recreated and fantasiesed forms of dinosaurs!!
----you may not know what im talking about here but it has to do with what i was trying to say..&quot;&quot;: scientists are just playing with their imaginations&quot;&quot;.......

Vote what you think and if you have any comments you may bring it up, so hopefully it can be a good discussion or debate&quot;.</span>

Venomous-Ninja
10-10-2005, 11:32 AM
There is life in outer space, us humans our examples that there is.

ledmonkey
10-10-2005, 01:25 PM
<span style='color:green'><span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>&quot;If we were the only ones, it would be an awful waste of space&quot;--Contact</span></span>

marvel911
10-10-2005, 02:27 PM
If there was, we'd know already.

Venomous-Ninja
10-10-2005, 02:28 PM
marve|, we do know. There have been so many sightings!

ledmonkey
10-10-2005, 02:33 PM
<span style='color:green'><span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>The universe is so big..and we can't study very much of it ATM</span></span>

Abdoun_bacK
10-10-2005, 05:06 PM
I think so, as Jodie Foster Said in Contact...ehem ehem lol....&quot;Thats a waste of space&quot;

SolidSnake76
10-10-2005, 05:36 PM
you deny science?

Quote[/b] ]Personally as far as it goes for me...also im christiana, so definetly i dont belive that there is any &quot;&quot;other&quot;&quot; life in outer space. There are all wild imaginations which are trying to lead people far from the truth, which scince has already done &quot;saying that we evolved from what ever they want to call it..apes or so and much ,etc...

about the apes, if you dont believe it, then why are we so similar? why are there 46 chromosomes in a human and 48 in a ape? the apes can stand up like us, have facial and bone structural features like us, and if humans migrated from africa, thats where we also evolved.

a few apes were outcasted from the jungle to the plains. and evolution had to take place so we can run faster to catch our prey, look over the grass, and do whatever else a human can do a ape cant. the only reason it hasnt been fully prove cause theres a missing link. otherwise, evolution cannot be denied. artifacts have been found all over, ancient painting, those fossilized bones, ape to man is real.

Quote[/b] ]-There is no life in outer space

that is very stupid to say. as big as this galaxy itself is, another planet or a few had to form just like earth. maybe not other humans, but different lifeforms. all it needs is a cell in water.

Quote[/b] ]-God created the heavens and earth, earth didnt just accidently form buy its self and we humans &quot;evoloved&quot;

of course the earth didnt just form itself. it was formed from fragments of the sun 5 billion years ago. and yes we humans evolved. humans evolved from apes, which evolved from mouse-like lemurs, which evolved from other organisms and they evolved from this:

http://geol.queensu.ca/museum/exhibits/archean/archean.html

http://i.timeinc.net/time/covers/1101010723/images/apes_timeline1.gif
and those fossils are real, not no plastic bullpoop you think it is. take a human bone from today and compare it to a fossil. is the fossil fake? and lets not forget the geological timeline:

http://www.bobainsworth.com/fossil/timeline.htm

Quote[/b] ]-scince will come up with anything to try to put our minds away from the truth
meanwhile science is proof right in your very own eyes, religion is entirely explained by a 2,000 year old book.

if joe was to show up, lol.

Bandit04
10-10-2005, 06:30 PM
Quote[/b] (Venomous-Ninja @ Oct. 10 2005,11:32)]There is life in outer space, us humans our examples that there is.
So true...

We are the examples that they exist. We are not the dominant type of existence, there are other types.

Just not discovered yet.

ledmonkey
10-10-2005, 07:56 PM
Quote[/b] (Abdoun_bacK @ Oct. 10 2005,6:06)]I think so, as Jodie Foster Said in Contact...ehem ehem lol....&quot;Thats a waste of space&quot;
<span style='color:green'><span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>....

Thats exactly what I said in the third post of this thread..except I actually had the right quote..</span></span>

SSJKarma
10-10-2005, 10:29 PM
ok first i must tell people that this isn't a religious topic, so don't try this god is all we need thing cause it will probably just give others a reason to pull the string of flaming a little farther !

as for us not being alone in this universe...
well how can we say it, the universe is so immense that even thought we have seen more then 6 different galaxy we know there is probably tenth of thousands more which in all these spaces between them and the fact that many galaxies have systems much like ours... i do believe there is others then us in this universe... after all, who ever visited it entirely.

-you always think you are the biggest in this universe !- MIB

that means we might as well be nothing more then the small atomic creature on the back of a single alien.
life is everywhere on this planet, why would we be the only planet to have life ?

i believe we will be fixed on this matter when the right times comes...
might that time be tomorrow or in ten years, or even when my grand grand grand grand grand grand son will be alive or even never in our planet's lifetime. one day we will be fixed about it !

Roll
10-10-2005, 10:36 PM
There need to be other beings in this universe, and beyond...
For Paul's sake..

marvel911
10-10-2005, 10:49 PM
Why Roll?
What do you mean by need? Necessary for survival?

Roll
10-10-2005, 10:59 PM
Well..
..Yes. ^-^`

(ShinKu_Ryu)
10-11-2005, 06:11 AM
Quote[/b] ]ok first i must tell people that this isn't a religious topic,

<span style='color:green'>yes i agree but both religion and science have a say in it....so eventually one will be brought in.


-There is no life in outer space

Quote[/b] ]that is very stupid to say. as big as this galaxy itself is, another planet or a few had to form just like earth. maybe not other humans, but different lifeforms. all it needs is a cell in water

And yet that comes up again...so therefore the only proof of your &quot;argument is to say &quot;&quot;all it needs is a cell in water&quot;, and that we have not explored all the universe....

Need i remind you all that all this &quot;life in outer space, evolution, and all that is science....well it is in &quot;&quot;point view&quot; of scince...

-There is always 2 sides of a story!! well for scince it may be a long and untrue story that will not find anything&quot;&quot;, but as far as religion stands , it is true and thus not a fiction.

Quote[/b] ]if joe was to show up, lol.

he would hardly bring up anything...when he sees that his not making sense, he starts flamming to get the topic closed..

Quote[/b] ]i believe we will be fixed on this matter when the right times comes...
might that time be tomorrow or in ten years, or even when my grand grand grand grand grand grand son will be alive or even never in our planet's lifetime. one day we will be fixed about it !

thats looking ahead quite a little to far in the future.........

well for christians
[we await the second comming of jesus]...

- Quote[/b] ]There need to be other beings in this universe, and beyond...

I clearly dont understand that post or what you were trying to say.??
-But as far as need other beings for us to &quot;survive&quot;, dont know if thats science or not but i have to disagree .If by means your trying to say the earth can not sustain itself, then all i have to say is we all know what is to blame..(science)</span>

SSJKarma
10-11-2005, 01:36 PM
so you're saying religion is true while science isn't ?
well proove me right now that god exists if you really want this to be proven true !

but i doubt you to be able to proove us anything either, thus your argument about religion is just as false and unclear as ours about science is !

let me get this straight...
neither science neither religion are true or the truth !
you why... because both were created by humans and by our natures humans makes mistakes.
thus everything we do is an interprettation of what we are !
saying 2+2=4 is just a saying humans have been saying for the last century and even more. does it means it is really that simple.

the answer is no !
thus before saying science is right religion is sci-fi, or the other way around, you gotta tell yourself, does it matter in the end ?
if you never asked yourself that question then truly you never understood your own life in the first place. the clear answer is no, all that matters is that you are alright with your life and that you live how you want it to live, you don't have to wonder if things are real or not, you just live it ! everything will be cleared later during your life, either at your death, either sooner...

as simple as that.
is there life int he universe other then us ?
well i THINK yes... i don't see why there wouldn't be anyone else then us. but again i got no way to proove it except maybe by the fact that if we exists truly something could exists in space. same goes for anything points you guys can make, this will always be a matter of views and no prooves. the question here isn't if you can proove th eexistence of god, or other life form... but the matter is all about if you believe there is or not !

this isn't a debate guys/girls !

ledmonkey
10-11-2005, 02:04 PM
<span style='color:green'><span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>Howbout no one knows for sure...and we end the topic

(I wish..)

Have we found life?
-No

Is there a possiblitly for life other then us?
-Yes</span></span>

SSJKarma
10-11-2005, 07:47 PM
exactly what i been saying since the beginnning !

(ShinKu_Ryu)
10-12-2005, 03:30 PM
Quote[/b] (ledmonkey @ Oct. 11 2005,3:04)]<span style='color:green'><span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>Howbout no one knows for sure...and we end the topic

(I wish..)

Have we found life?
-No

Is there a possiblitly for life other then us?
-Yes</span></span>
<span style='color:green'>Obviously we all have our own point of views and all of them should be respected.....

and in conclusion to this topic..basically what ledmonkey said^.
but to my belief, there isnt and cant be........

(in scientific terms&quot;) to those it has its own visual and a defferent say.....

At least on this we should all agree on..</span>

ledmonkey
10-12-2005, 03:36 PM
<span style='color:green'><span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>Basically what I mean really by what I said is we all need to (especially in this forum) respect each others beliefs...not accept them..just respect them.. I guess i don't really mean to say its possible for sure..but just that we need to be a little bit more open minded in the future..</span></span>

twicecsupreme
10-12-2005, 03:46 PM
i bet the goverment did found proof but its keeping secret...like it does with mostly everything...:;):

ledmonkey
10-12-2005, 03:48 PM
<span style='color:green'><span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>And what do you have to support that theory?</span></span>

Roll
10-12-2005, 03:53 PM
It's a simple assumption which can be made once you realize that most information is controlled by the government. Newspapers, which feature exclusive exposes, however, are the safest things from the government... but other than those, which are kind of unreliable themselves, information is controlled.

..Plus, you can't rule out that chance after they've shown that ****-and-bull video of the man on the moon. If there was no air on the moon, how does the flag blow in the wind? o.O

ledmonkey
10-12-2005, 04:11 PM
<span style='color:green'><span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>I'm not saying they don't cover up stuff.. I was just asking for evidence..

That flag thing...is good evidence...mind boggleling..</span></span>

Roll
10-12-2005, 04:16 PM
Isn't it though?
And one way to figure out whether or not there was contact with outside lives, is to look at any technological or methodical advances that just seem to come out of no where. Of course, that's not entirely proof, because it could be just another lucky break of the human race... but on the other hand, finding something completely unrelated to anything else on this world is something to wonder about also. Like a light that never needs to be changed...

ledmonkey
10-12-2005, 04:23 PM
<span style='color:green'><span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>OH i figured out the answer..the flag had metal rods in it to hold it up for the cameras..so it stayed in &quot;wavy&quot; like postion...and it only moved when someone was touching it..the flag was made to give the apperence of a waving flag..It didn't actually wave..</span></span>

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