Bison?onspeed?

[MSI]

I know TmyApp tweaked spiderman sent and bison, but it feels like the guy has overdosed on 1000 speed pills, he GOES SO FAST its crazy and hard to control, i think his speed should be lowered a bit.

or maybe i just have to get used to it

[Kill_dem_all]

Quote[/b] (MSI @ Mar. 11 2006,2:59)]I know TmyApp tweaked spiderman sent and bison, but it feels like the guy has overdosed on 1000 speed pills, he GOES SO FAST its crazy and hard to control, i think his speed should be lowered a bit.

or maybe i just have to get used to it
Don't worry at all, you WILL get used to it.

This is the exact same complaint of when Expert came out, but we got used to the speed of them and began to think it was slow http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[estset]

I fought every single bison user with bison vs bison...they keep on using special non stop lol...

[sithlord_12]

what u on about bisons speed

[Remedy2003]

i have no problem using him lol ADJUST!

[estset]

Quote[/b] (Remedy2003 @ Mar. 12 2006,3:33)]i have no problem using him lol ADJUST!
Bison is good to use but ur opponet is really fast...

[MSI]

yea like ill play and my screen goes nuts if the other person is just using the siccor kick constantly

[Veg1ta]

bison is the only negative to come from this update why is he even that fast anyhow its not like he should be faster than ryu and ken anyhowbut now he is this blows.

[Blazer_Gouki]

Well... Honestly It's More Fair For Bison Now. Before Expert Was Added, Bison Was Able To Take Out A Good Ryu Fairly Easily... And Expert Turned The Tables For That.

Now It's Pretty Much Even Seeing As How Fast Ryu Can Fire Off Projectiles And Such To Stop Bison... You Just Need To Adjust.

[fussion]

Yeah but most of the time ryus moves dont even stop bisons specials cuz of lag, or glitches. Lol this may sound dumb, but since i got a crappy pc it seems like im one of the only ones who dont really lag or glitch or gain there speed super fast.

[(~thug~)]

No its not fair, he is to fast. With his kicks to, it corner rape.
Bison needs to be tweaked, he lags alot more now.

[LiL_DRS]

i was bout to make a topic bout this.


Bison is to damn fast he need to be lowered in speed.

he alrdy has a special that is almost impossible to stop.
He can teleport behide u.

now has speed nawb this is to cheap >_<

[Vash]

Quote[/b] (LiL_DRS @ Mar. 14 2006,12:24)]i was bout to make a topic bout this.


Bison is to damn fast he need to be lowered in speed.

he alrdy has a special that is almost impossible to stop.
He can teleport behide u.

now has speed nawb this is to cheap >_<
I agree hes pretty fast and even more laggy.

[blockattack]

please leave Bison as is....He is fine this way, and i really dont notice a diff, I had to be told he was tweaked..plz dont slow him down...I beg of you...and it seems ryu is slow as dust now. If anything get on sakura with them fat ass hadokens that come from evrywhere, or the blinding green spiderman

[silver-ken]

U people need to stop complaining so Damn much
Wow so Bison is fast, u can use Bison as a stepping stone to make u better
All i hear is Bison to fast
all i got to say is
LIVE WITH IT!!
U dont always get ur ways in life Tough Luck to those who bitched about Bison

[Veg1ta]

no the point is bison is even faster than ken now thats not right how can u justify this his specials are allrdy hard enough to dodge never mind speeding them up from whati can tell enough ppl have complained about this like when sakura first came out 1 of her moves took to much damage well same with this hes to damn fast and thats that sooner it gets changed back the better hes just a damn powerhouse now if youwanna keep his speed then add new moves etc to other chars to counter balance this.

[blanka09]

You guys probably don't even know the reason why Bison's as fast as he is... it's not cause we made it that way, it's the product of tweaking parts of the game engine and hence, the result... I can see he's a tad bit too fast, but that's not exactly how we wanted him to be.

My own personal problem is, once the game gets out of the "1 on 1 Ryu vs Ryu, hadouken hadouken hadouken shinkuu hadouken" mode, then something's terribly wrong and all hell breaks loose.

*sigh* ... we'll see what we can do with Bison though http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

[Veg1ta]

finally some1 is on the case well i would play as many games with ur bison while he has his speed cause he wont have it for much longer and cry away every1 who ent a bison user has complained about this so its only fair that his speed is reduced cause in theroy theres no way bison should be faster than the likes of chung li and ken.

[silver-ken]

They should leave Bison the way he is
it isnt our Fault u cant stop him http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[LiL_DRS]

if ken is that fastest. and bison suppose to be slowest.

and in this world where bison is fastest just think isnt that wrong?

[Abdoun_bacK]

no way, i think bison should be tweaked down, his supers are too long too.

[DA_VIPA]

erm he was fine the way he was?

[Metal_Ken]

I think Bison should stay the speed he is now. I think thats the perfect speed but it should take 2 levels instead of 1 to do his psycho crusher and psycho field supers and his regular moves should deal less damage. That should make him evened out for everyone that way everyone should be happy. Besides Akuma and Chun Li are the ones grieving for an upgrade.

[`XtreamRyu`]

On seacond thought I think bison is good as it is =)But his special move is kinda powerful and the people that had fast compt liked me http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Do super power non stop I perfect with bison likedd 20 time since the update Yeahooo =)

[_~APOCALYPSE~_]

bison's speed is not a problem remember we thought that expert was crack mode now look it feels like turbo so bison will feel the same just give it some time

[MSI]

Will people Shut the *uck up about expert, THERES A BIG DIFFERENCE WHEN EXPERT CAME OUT, IT EFFECTS ALL CHARACTERS. Bison being 100x fast then everyyone else messes up your sense of speed in the game, there for its not a matter of opinoin anymore and that something needs to be tweaked

[_~APOCALYPSE~_]

well fine maybe but his speed isn't all that fast to me but i agree he does need to be tweaked

[Abdoun_bacK]

Quote[/b] (Metal_Ken @ Mar. 14 2006,4:33)]I think Bison should stay the speed he is now. I think thats the perfect speed but it should take 2 levels instead of 1 to do his psycho crusher and psycho field supers and his regular moves should deal less damage. That should make him evened out for everyone that way everyone should be happy. Besides Akuma and Chun Li are the ones grieving for an upgrade.
umm wolverine thank you very much, and umm cyclops, they dont have any VIP MOVES......

[Phinally-champ]

Quote[/b] (silver-ken @ Mar. 14 2006,7:40)]U people need to stop complaining so Damn much
Wow so Bison is fast, u can use Bison as a stepping stone to make u better
All i hear is Bison to fast
all i got to say is
LIVE WITH IT!!
U dont always get ur ways in life Tough Luck to those who bitched about Bison
Make my ryu that fast and see who will be the one complaining then

[masterbob]

isnt bison supposed to be powerful and slow???
other characters like spiderman are fast, but not as powerful
so when you have a fast and powerful character, its like having a perfect fighter
he needs to have flaws, and that would be his speed
therefore, i think he should be slowed down a bit, but it will take time beacuse mods have lives
so stop yelling at each other

[Tsunami]

i liked bison the way he was before this update. i dont think sent and spidey needed the upgrade... should have been focused more on akuma, chun, cyc and wolvie (as MK and AB said). The updates are cool and im sure we all enjoy them, but the speed upgrades should be given to more, or all, of the characters

[estset]

Don't worry people Nferno666 said the bison well get tweaked.

[LiL_DRS]

bison to fast and powerful
need bring attack a lil lower and speed alot lower

nuff said no more >_<

[SSJKarma]

Quote[/b] (streetchamp101 @ Mar. 16 2006,12:26)]i liked bison the way he was before this update. i dont think sent and spidey needed the upgrade... should have been focused more on akuma, chun, cyc and wolvie (as MK and AB said). The updates are cool and im sure we all enjoy them, but the speed upgrades should be given to more, or all, of the characters
you cannot be serious, sentinel without this speed upgrade was becoming a useless character in expert mode. he was simply a a big tin can waiting there with no recovery time. now he's even with about every characters !

and if bison is so strong, tellme then why nobody really fights with him as a charcter ?
if he was abusives people would take him and play as him for they realy want to win. so he mustn't be so abusive in the first place !

[LiL_DRS]

only realy ####s who wanna win use him now. that y im not using bison. i like real fights ryu or ken vs who ever that not sent or bison.

[Veg1ta]

ssjkarma ppl dont go there prefered fighter cause of there power they go them cause they best reflect how they wanna fight bison sent cyclops all cheap chars with cheap moves basically for the un skilled who cant master a shoto or skiled fighters who just like bison as a alter ego me personally dont care how strong or how fast he is i like the stye of a shoto not a lard ass.

[(-KIllA13-)]

You guys have such negative energy towards Bison. Why? I dont know. But I think this update will be just fine, if all you stop your pickering and at least try to get used to Bison and the new update you'll do well..:D

[Tsunami]

Quote[/b] (SSJKarma @ Mar. 16 2006,1:46)]Quote[/b] (streetchamp101 @ Mar. 16 2006,12:26)]i liked bison the way he was before this update. i dont think sent and spidey needed the upgrade... should have been focused more on akuma, chun, cyc and wolvie (as MK and AB said). The updates are cool and im sure we all enjoy them, but the speed upgrades should be given to more, or all, of the characters
you cannot be serious, sentinel without this speed upgrade was becoming a useless character in expert mode. he was simply a a big tin can waiting there with no recovery time. now he's even with about every characters !

and if bison is so strong, tellme then why nobody really fights with him as a charcter ?
if he was abusives people would take him and play as him for they realy want to win. so he mustn't be so abusive in the first place !
well... i used sentinal, as did estset, as well as life... and neither of us had much trouble fighting with him.

As for bison... once again... me, VIPA, Blazer, AK47, estset, Life, Takeover, as well as many others... all used bison. Just because others arent as GOOD with him, therefore choose not to use him.... isnt anyone's fault but their own. correct?

[LiL_DRS]

Quote[/b] (Veg1ta @ Mar. 16 2006,2:03)]ssjkarma ppl dont go there prefered fighter cause of there power they go them cause they best reflect how they wanna fight bison sent cyclops all cheap chars with cheap moves basically for the un skilled who cant master a shoto or skiled fighters who just like bison as a alter ego me personally dont care how strong or how fast he is i like the stye of a shoto not a lard ass.
exactly why i dont use bison.

[HellBlaze]

the main reason you see bison go from one end to the other is because of his scissor kicks, each kick brings you a quater across the battle field, its not a fault in the system, its just how he his.
besides, he needs a advantage against them projectile rain cloud guys out there...

[SSJKarma]

Quote[/b] (Veg1ta @ Mar. 16 2006,2:03)]ssjkarma ppl dont go there prefered fighter cause of there power they go them cause they best reflect how they wanna fight bison sent cyclops all cheap chars with cheap moves basically for the un skilled who cant master a shoto or skiled fighters who just like bison as a alter ego me personally dont care how strong or how fast he is i like the stye of a shoto not a lard ass.
so if i folow your reasoning, you play the other characters because you like em more, but you'r enot playing the tohers because they are cheap to your eyes ?

i think you just contradicted yourself there...
ryu's hadouken is pretty cheap yet you fight by doing only that stupid move all the time. doesn't that makes you cheap because you are th eone besides the controllers ? if so then clearly you don't understand how a character really works, a character doesn't do anything by itself it is you who make him do what you want him to do. thus the players are cheap thus you can't put everybody in th esame bags because they use a certain characters !

and believe me,many ken users aren't really using their preffered characters in this game. its not because a charcater is played enough that it is the favorite of many, many of us really plays with others. like me, my favorite character isn't in th egame yet and i doubt himto be in the game for quite some times. so i play a charcater i like to play as. sentinel. but again my favorite besides guile is KEN. but i'm not good with him and i hate having to go the hadouken route like many of you just to get some wins.

i doubt you to understand these little concept that makes a non-complete fighting game what it is !

[killerdude10]

bison could be the key 2 winning matches

[Dark_Paladin_X]

It's just like the update when Sakra was too powerful.. a good percentage of people tried to take advantage of it. Now it's starting with this "tweaked" Bison. (Not counting people who used Bison before)

anyway, Bison will be going back to his former self.

[Veg1ta]

karma am sick to the back teeth of u thinking u know it all u know nothin about me u ashume because i use shotos that i abuse hadoken well srry to disapoint u thats totally not how i play at all so get ur facts right in future and some chars it doesnt matter how u use them there cheap like sent and cyclops all there moves are cheap made for beginners who cant land a special any other way and for ur information i take great pleasure in taking down cheap sents like urself so if youwant challenge me to a fight and stop ur bitchin all the time and guess what enough of the kid thing u think cause u have over 5000 posts that gives u the right to call me kid am in fact 24 years of age so its u who is the kid to me all those 5000 posts proves is that its u who doesnt have a life not me.

[Tsunami]

Quote[/b] (Veg1ta @ Mar. 17 2006,10:01)]karma am sick to the back teeth of u thinking u know it all u know nothin about me u ashume because i use shotos that i abuse hadoken well srry to disapoint u thats totally not how i play at all so get ur facts right in future and some chars it doesnt matter how u use them there cheap like sent and cyclops all there moves are cheap made for beginners who cant land a special any other way and for ur information i take great pleasure in taking down cheap sents like urself so if youwant challenge me to a fight and stop ur bitchin all the time and guess what enough of the kid thing u think cause u have over 5000 posts that gives u the right to call me kid am in fact 24 years of age so its u who is the kid to me all those 5000 posts proves is that its u who doesnt have a life not me.
damn dude, he didnt insult you... he was talking in generalities.

anyways.... cyc and sent arent cheap... just like Karma said, its the user. I play with cyclops a lot lately, and no one has complained of me being cheap with him. There are fighters who use sentinal who arent cheap with him either. You cant just make a statement that a certain character is cheap, because just as Karma said, ryu can be considered cheap. Constant hadokens then that beam special isnt the most "professional?" for lack of a better word, way of fighting. anywayssss.... your 24, congrats, whoopie. age dont mean crap. just fight, stop complaining, and bisons being taken care of.

[Veg1ta]

tsunami how hasnt he insulted me he quotes:
'think you just contradicted yourself there...
ryu's hadouken is pretty cheap yet you fight by doing only that stupid move all the time'
he knows nothin about me but he saids am a hadoken #### am pretty sure thats a insult and i know age means poop but tell karma that he brings it up 24/7 calling ppl kid phewblah blah.

[Tsunami]

he said that about ryu users in general... and its quite true.

and being called kid... who cares? its like calling someone "Buddy" or "dawg"

[Kill_dem_all]

Quote[/b] (silver-ken @ Mar. 14 2006,11:43)]They should leave Bison the way he is
it isnt our Fault u cant stop him http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
it's seriously idiiots like you who love cheap people *http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Hec while Bison is this quick why not bring back the old cheap sakura, and screw up the balance of ever character

Quote[/b] ]As for bison... once again... me, VIPA, Blazer, AK47, estset, Life, Takeover, as well as many others... all used bison. Just because others arent as GOOD with him, therefore choose not to use him.... isnt anyone's fault but their own. correct?

You forgot me :'(, I liked Bison alot more when he wasn't as fast, but people's judgements are becoming more and more different the more they use Bison (Estset & MK). I staying away from that ####ison queer till it's updated, and I continuously train my spider-man to pwn dat ###

[(-KIllA13-)]

I just depise when everyone "bitches" after TMy updates the game and then tweakes a character.

"Ugh.. Bisons too fast!!"
"Sakura cant be stopped!"
"I hate SFO, Ill never play again"

No one cares! if you dont play again. After the character(s) go back to there normal stage. They decide

"Sakuras' not soo powerful anymore, Watch out guys im coming back to SFO!"

It just bugs me.. thats it. =P

[y_09]

yea at times the sfo community can be pretty stereotypical and hypocritcal, but err...thats another story in general, but to stay on point, looks like bison is going back his old calmer psycho form

[_~APOCALYPSE~_]

Quote[/b] (y_09 @ Mar. 18 2006,5:56)]yea at times the sfo community can be pretty stereotypical and hypocritcal, but err...thats another story in general, but to stay on point, looks like bison is going back his old calmer psycho form
yea but life's very sterotypical and hypocritcal, but again thats another story bison speed is just being abuse by a lot of members thats why ppl are complaning yea it was fun while it lasted

[(EliteRyu)]

Nobody wants to be complaining...
But fact is that Bison is just a lil to fast now.
As he is goin to be tweaked soon there is no further reason to keep talking trash about the gameupdate and eachother in here.

[blockattack]

Quote[/b] (blanka09 @ Mar. 14 2006,10:48)]You guys probably don't even know the reason why Bison's as fast as he is... it's not cause we made it that way, it's the product of tweaking parts of the game engine and hence, the result... I can see he's a tad bit too fast, but that's not exactly how we wanted him to be.

My own personal problem is, once the game gets out of the "1 on 1 Ryu vs Ryu, hadouken hadouken hadouken shinkuu hadouken" mode, then something's terribly wrong and all hell breaks loose.

*sigh* ... we'll see what we can do with Bison though http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif
I noticed something....Bison is fast...ya, But he has the defense of a 1st grade girl....Blanka, DONT MESS WITH HIM PLZ!!! I dont want to have to go back to ryu http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif And in tag matches bison is as slow a snail.

All of you complained about the speed...saying he's to slow, and now you got what u asked for, just a healthy dose of it...If you keep having him change the characters...something is going to go wrong... http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[estset]

People chill out man...In a few years people would all foget about bison so fast :P Since we going to get new character and bleleh to own the bison :P Anyway Bison is darn slow in tag. And why people saying bison is so strong =/ I perfect some of the greatest bison user with my sentinel :P

[mcvicar]

Quote[/b] (Veg1ta @ Mar. 16 2006,7:03)]ssjkarma ppl dont go there prefered fighter cause of there power they go them cause they best reflect how they wanna fight bison sent cyclops all cheap chars with cheap moves basically for the un skilled who cant master a shoto or skiled fighters who just like bison as a alter ego me personally dont care how strong or how fast he is i like the stye of a shoto not a lard ass.
sorry but thats complete bullpoop.
firstly, if ryu requires so much skill, then how come the majority of people use him?
Bison is the hardest character to master, his moves are more complex than anyones imo, i can easily take down someone who tries to be cheap with bison, yes i agree generally he is a tad overpowered, but to call him cheap is nonsense.

I myself mainly use chun li now http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[blockattack]

Quote[/b] (mcvicar @ Mar. 19 2006,12:22)]Quote[/b] (Veg1ta @ Mar. 16 2006,7:03)]ssjkarma ppl dont go there prefered fighter cause of there power they go them cause they best reflect how they wanna fight bison sent cyclops all cheap chars with cheap moves basically for the un skilled who cant master a shoto or skiled fighters who just like bison as a alter ego me personally dont care how strong or how fast he is i like the stye of a shoto not a lard ass.
sorry but thats complete bullpoop.
firstly, if ryu requires so much skill, then how come the majority of people use him?
Bison is the hardest character to master, his moves are more complex than anyones imo, i can easily take down someone who tries to be cheap with bison, yes i agree generally he is a tad overpowered, but to call him cheap is nonsense.

I myself mainly use chun li now http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
The most I can say...KEEP HIS SPEED..POWER HIM DOWN A BIT....
Bison is easy to master...AND ESTSET..NO NEW CHARACTER WILL OWN BISON!!!!

[Crimson]

I myself am a Bison user before the upgrade. To say the truth I don't see no diff. in the speed... well sometimes :P but a lot of ppl are starting to use him because he's faster and using him cheap... but they can't still beat me im to good for that. But this upgrade is good and all... but if he is put back like he was im still going to use him since I have like sorta master him good... so I'm cool with the results O_o

[Klens]

ITS TRUE WELL GET USE TO IT BUT I WOULDNT HURT TO BRING HIM DOWN A NOTCH

[killerdude10]

dude u can defeat bison easily with sakura,akuma and evil ryu.........bison aint so strong in front of me

[Crimson]

Quote[/b] (killerdude10 @ Mar. 24 2006,6:37)]dude u can defeat bison easily with sakura,akuma and evil ryu.........bison aint so strong in front of me
I guess you havent fought my bison yet O_o

[(~SiNiK~)]

Quote[/b] (Crimson @ Mar. 24 2006,2:48)]Quote[/b] (killerdude10 @ Mar. 24 2006,6:37)]dude u can defeat bison easily with sakura,akuma and evil ryu.........bison aint so strong in front of me
I guess you havent fought my bison yet O_o
I fought your xD (i was your nightmare)

@Killa13: Yes Sakura was a WARMACHINE. She couldnt be defeted by other chars.
Now thats not exactly same with bison, we can beat bison but he is so fast, only good spiderman user can win without anyproblem.

[MEGA_DRACOS_XRL]

On my XP windows, he's merely poop. just a fast fat mafliper like homer simpson xD