Changing the way the game mode/speed is picked...

[Restavega]

It would be much more convenient choosing the game mode within the hosted room by the host. This way, the host won't have to rely on an clueless or spiteful opponent picking a different mode.

Also, sometimes people have trouble picking expert mode. They just can't seem to move the selection from Turbo down to Expert. It just won't budge. Other times, everyone in the game is trying to pick Expert mode at the same time so the selection keeps jumping from Expert to Turbo and can land on Normal by the time the match begins!

This can all be eliminated.

Make picking the mode by the host within the hosted chat as easy as it is to turn the server on and off or pick helpers. I really don't see the point of picking the mode unreliably in the character selection screen when so many problems can occur.

The only pro the mode selection has with being on the character selection screen is looking glamourous and being faithful to XMvsSF... well, this isn't XMvsSF - this is SFO!

[alamgir]

Yeah I agree with you. Afterall its the host's game so it should be the host's rules.

[y_09]

agreed

[{Predator}]

i agree with restavega. makes sense

[SBYRD5]

Yeah the one hosting should be the one that picks the mode.... that's acceptable.

[dominicankid098]

I don't agree. The hoster already has the HOSTING advantage, let the opponent pick the speed.

Have you thought about those who can't host a game due to router or type of internet connection? Then what? Are they screwed? No, leave the opponent pick the speed. This is just giving the hoster more of an upper hand.

Besides, in any SF game, the opponent always picks the speed.

[(Êli†Ê)]

Thats a great idea.
I totally agree with you man. It would be way better for the host to choose the game speed mode in the chat. That would be more reliable and since the one hosting is the host of the game he should decide the game speed anyway.

[marvel911]

What is this? Now I'm being PM'd to vote a certain way? Mr. unmentionable (Êli†Ê)...

[(Êli†Ê)]

Quote[/b] (marvel911 @ Oct. 21 2005,8:05)]What is this? Now I'm being PM'd to vote a certain way? Mr. unmentionable (Êli†Ê)...
I said make your voice count for turbo or expert in general comments and stategies. Its your choice what yo vote so dont act like nobody telling you to do anything. It's your chance to vote what you like. Turbo or Expert you can choose yourself. I just let you know you can vote. You dont have to vote. But you do have the right to.

[Bandit04]

Yeah, I agree with Lancer. It's already bad enough that the hoster takes less lag. Giving him the choice to choose the mode just makes it worse.

[(-ChOsEn-1-)]

i think the person that hosted the match should be the one to pick the game speed!! http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[Restavega]

After all, you hosted it and it's your room.

The people with routers... they should have no problem. what more do they want? They have more than one computer in their household sharing the internet and they're saving money. They can't host because of that luxury. That's the brakes! You chose another computer having internet over the ability to host in SFO. You people with routers can't have the best of everything.

Therefore, those who pay an internet monthly fee for just one computer should call the shots with their sacrifice to host.

Who are we as hosters? Why should a person with a router rolling with two or more computers in their house with internet access be allowed to come into your host and choose your settings!? They made their decision not to host and we made our decision to host when we pay that badass bill at the beginning of each month for just one comp to go online.

[blanka09]

In an ideal situation, it really doesn't make any difference. But I believe it should be this way. It just makes more sense that u host a game and have the opponent choose the speed, since you set the rules by which the game is run http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

But in all honesty, it really doesn't matter.

[(Êli†Ê)]

Well if it really does not matter than maybe TMyApp will just go with what's best for the majority again.
I really think the host should be the one to choose the setting from gametype to gamespeed to helpers.
He is the one hosting the game. If you join than you have to play by the host rules or host you have to host you own game.
Restavega made some good points about people with routers. They can't have the best of both worlds. Its there choice to have a router for more pc's so they can't host.
In the worse case for peopl that cant host there is still always the quickgame were the rules are set by default.
And afterall if you look closely the one joining should be greatfull anyway cause if it was not for the host than he or she could not play at all.

[Vash]

Quote[/b] (alamgir @ Oct. 21 2005,11:37)]Yeah I agree with you. Afterall its the host's game so it should be the host's rules.
I also agree as well.

[blanka09]

Well, if it really doesn't matter, we could always leave it like this and save TMyApp some extra minutes/hours of coding, so that we can work on other features like DWX http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

[luis000]

it is good like how it is now

[twicecsupreme]

this poll has been done already in other ways.........i think

[gieandfer]

man u guys are good. i never thought of choosing the speed of the game in the hosting room. im with this idea. the only problem is if youcan trust the hoster cause he might have a fast computer and while u go slow, he goes fast on turbo or normal.

[mastergrim8]

well i say u pick your speed at the options menu http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

[Windarossa]

I think it's a great idea. I like it. Doing this would solve a bunch of problems so I don't see why not.

[SolidSnake76]

wait a minute.

you set the game to 1v1 tag, timer off, lvl 2 and now you also want the hoster to select the speed?

how about we also let speedgear be used? that way, you all can get more and more perfects and make the opponent feel like total poop.

you all just want the advantage in every way possible. its also gonna cause more problems, more bitching, and more creative asshole finding more ways to cheat and the ever famous; more bitching.

you know, you just miss the 2002 year so much......

[Windarossa]

^ I'm FOR the idea and I can't host. So your argument kind of falls through... http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

[twicecsupreme]

we all agree we this idea.......i think it should be done...

[SolidSnake76]

Quote[/b] (Windarossa @ Oct. 22 2005,5:07)]^ I'm FOR the idea and I can't host. So your argument kind of falls through... http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
thats your own fault on not knowing the ins and outs of computers.

and i can bet you the next 5 people on the next 2 pages will agree with me. there was also another reason why tmy wouldnt do it, either 1 of the mods said it or tmy himself said it.

dont believe me? ask him.

[Windarossa]

Quote[/b] (SolidSnake76 @ Oct. 22 2005,10:28)]Quote[/b] (Windarossa @ Oct. 22 2005,5:07)]^ I'm FOR the idea and I can't host. So your argument kind of falls through... http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
thats your own fault on not knowing the ins and outs of computers.

and i can bet you the next 5 people on the next 2 pages will agree with me. there was also another reason why tmy wouldnt do it, either 1 of the mods said it or tmy himself said it.

dont believe me? ask him.
Ins and out of a computer? What does that have to do with a poll about the way the mode is picked?

[SolidSnake76]

is that a serious question?

[(Êli†Ê)]

Blanka09: I know what you mean but anytime in the future would be fine.... It's just good to look at what the comunity thinks since they the ones playing right. And even so I think that if TMyApp really wants something done he will get it right anyway. The fact that DWX comes first is only natural.

Now to get back to Solidsnake..
You been kicking up quit some dust but I will be the first to disagree with you!!
The host should be the one to select the game speed cause he is the one hosting FINAL.
And the votes don't lie http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

Yo solid answer me this...
How about I come to your house, and decide what we eat and how we gonna eat it.
How about I come to your house and decide what clothes you should wear and how you should wear them.
How about I come to your house and decide how you should set up your livingroom.

I am sure you will agree this is ludacris and ridiculous.
Well than... Enough said!!
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[Evil-Blanka]

Ok i say make expert mode the the first pick.Turbo is *** and no one likes it.

[SolidSnake76]

Quote[/b] ((Êli†Ê) @ Oct. 23 2005,1:12)]Now to get back to Solidsnake..
You been kicking up quit some dust but I will be the first to disagree with you!!
The host should be the one to select the game speed cause he is the one hosting FINAL.
And the votes don't lie http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

Yo solid answer me this...
How about I come to your house, and decide what we eat and how we gonna eat it.
How about I come to your house and decide what clothes you should wear and how you should wear them.
How about I come to your house and decide how you should set up your livingroom.

I am sure you will agree this is ludacris and ridiculous.
Well than... Enough said!!
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its fun when lesser people attemp to outsmart you. that doesnt make any sense.

If you come in my house, i decide what we eat and where, but I'm not gonna rush you am I?

if you come in my house and decide what clothes I wear, hold up, you didnt create the house so how do ou plan to set things up if your not in control? you can either let me take my time or rush me to get dress, but you dont tell me how or what to wear.

if you come in my house and decide how you want me to set up the living room, wait, your not fliping ty pennington, this one makes no sense whatsoever.

now lets picture this:

we're in a bike race, i pick the type of race, the type of terrain and i let you pick where we go. or would you rather me pick where we go and what bike you sould you and how fast you should go? hell, how about i pick who comes in first too? would you like that mr nazi dictator?

its only fair i let you decide something too, unless you want me to choose every fliping thing and put you at a huge disadvantage? and people will later on down the road will bitch and moan about this, saying they want to choose again, they dont want the host to choose everything, they want an advantage, its just stupid chaos.

oh and for the record, step foot near my house and I'll do more than kick you ass.

[(Shady_vip)^]

I agree with SolidSnake thats why I chose
"The mode should continue to be selected in the character screen." This is just lame you guys. Get SKILLZ to own someone.

[(Êli†Ê)]

Yo Solid first of all unlike you I don't feel like anyone is lesser than me... ( http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif accept maybe you http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif )
Second of all this game has only 1 dictator and that is TMyApp!!

Anyway you don't understand what hosting is about.
Its kinda like inviting someone to your house. (It's hospitality)
That's why I made the refference..

It's kinda like !!!HOSTING!!! a tournament.
The HOST decides what the rules are. Not the ones joining.
The ones joining must obey the host rules and enjoy the hosts hospitallity and be happy about it to!!
Otherwise you should find yourself another game, or host your own game with your own rules cause you are not obligated to join anyone's game.

The settings that the host controls like helpers and timer are things you see in the host room. If you join and you dont like em you can leave the hosts game.
I get that all the time. They join. They see helpers on and they leave right away because they don't like your settings. A host does not have that option.

When someone joins your game and than when the game starts he chooses Turbo than the host gets forced to play a game he dont like to play at all. As you can see in the poll I made nobody likes Turbo anyway. So why let those few people that still wonna play turbo force you to play turbo in a game you hosted to play expert in.
Let them host there own game.

The HOST should be the one to decide the gamespeed.
And looking at the votes most people belief the same thing which is only logical cause what they think and what I say makes sence and whatever it is your thinking and trying to say does not make sence at all.

http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif I will let the votes do the talking from now on http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

[Bandit04]

Definately choose the Game Mode in the hosting room..

[Restavega]

Quote[/b] (SolidSnake76 @ Oct. 23 2005,9:53)]Quote[/b] ((Êli†Ê) @ Oct. 23 2005,1:12)]Now to get back to Solidsnake..
You been kicking up quit some dust but I will be the first to disagree with you!!
The host should be the one to select the game speed cause he is the one hosting FINAL.
And the votes don't lie http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

Yo solid answer me this...
How about I come to your house, and decide what we eat and how we gonna eat it.
How about I come to your house and decide what clothes you should wear and how you should wear them.
How about I come to your house and decide how you should set up your livingroom.

I am sure you will agree this is ludacris and ridiculous.
Well than... Enough said!!
http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/buttrock.gif http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/buttrock.gif http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/buttrock.gif http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/buttrock.gif
its fun when lesser people attemp to outsmart you. that doesnt make any sense.

If you come in my house, i decide what we eat and where, but I'm not gonna rush you am I?

if you come in my house and decide what clothes I wear, hold up, you didnt create the house so how do ou plan to set things up if your not in control? you can either let me take my time or rush me to get dress, but you dont tell me how or what to wear.

if you come in my house and decide how you want me to set up the living room, wait, your not fliping ty pennington, this one makes no sense whatsoever.

now lets picture this:

we're in a bike race, i pick the type of race, the type of terrain and i let you pick where we go. or would you rather me pick where we go and what bike you sould you and how fast you should go? hell, how about i pick who comes in first too? would you like that mr nazi dictator?

its only fair i let you decide something too, unless you want me to choose every fliping thing and put you at a huge disadvantage? and people will later on down the road will bitch and moan about this, saying they want to choose again, they dont want the host to choose everything, they want an advantage, its just stupid chaos.

oh and for the record, step foot near my house and I'll do more than kick you ass.
Listen, Solid, a constructive argument between two parties is fine... but don't try to abuse people with that statement you made, "its fun when lesser people attemp to outsmart you."... Not cool at all. Leave that animosity of yours at Battlegrounds, please.

And allow me to say I just installed my router. So, now I can't host. And if this idea falls through now I can't choose the mode. You know what? That's the price I pay for having more than one computer in my household sharing the internet connection. If it wasn't for people not having routers we, people with routers, wouldn't even be ABLE to join a hosted room. In some cases, we wouldn't even be able to play! - which is my case because I can't accept quickgames!

I'm grateful to everyone that pays their monthly online fee for just one computer. I'm thankful to them because when it's late at night and there are a half-a-dozen people in the server who can't host because they have routers... The last thing on my mind is giving a damn about the game mode when someone finally joins saying they can host so I can stop staring at the list of names and finally play my favorite game.

We owe the hosters that option to choose the game mode because without them most of us wouldn't even be able to play SFO and this whole community would've become non-existant to us.

What I just stated is one of the core issues why we should have the option in the host's room for the host to choose. There are other reasons based on efficiency. For instance when a person has a problem picking the mode at the character selection screen and you both get stuck fighting through a whole mode on NORMAL or TURBO (and you can't click menu and go back to chat).

There are alot of factors in SFO pushing for this feature... be one of them.

[SolidSnake76]

I have a westell versalink modem and its a router itself. I can still host a game once i get my connection set up properly. So that tells me you people don't know the ends and outs of a computer, not even the basics.

if someone has more than one computer in thier house, thats thier issue, they need it for thier own reasons and is basically none of our business. same thing with my mom's computer at her job, i can still host on the thing.

so your whole arguement is because of the people who operate on routers, we should let the hoster pick everything. and you call it "returning the favor". bullpoop is always coming out your mouth. this cannot be done cause i stated the reasons already: hosters will cheat, people will bitch, the game will develop technical problems itself and tmy said himself it cannot be done. i cant find that topic but maybe nferno could relay it for me.

Quote[/b] ]When someone joins your game and than when the game starts he chooses Turbo than the host gets forced to play a game he dont like to play at all. As you can see in the poll I made nobody likes Turbo anyway. So why let those few people that still wonna play turbo force you to play turbo in a game you hosted to play expert in.
Let them host there own game.

that shows the host is a sore fighter. if he cant fight on any other modes, he shouldnt be fighting then. like i said, trying to get an advantage for himself. your just gonna put the opponent at a disadvantage.

and another thing: how do you expect the game mode to be selected before the characters are even selected? it just wont work.

I'm done fighting these one man arguements. A dozen other people know I am right.

[Restavega]

First off, you can keep thinking a dozen people know you're right... yeah... I can tell by the poll.............................................

And about routers, you mentioned that there is always a way to host even if you have a router... well Nferno confirmed that if you have an external router there is no chance in hell.

Lastly, if it can't be done because of coding problems or a technical problem within the game then then that's the only thing holding TMyApp back from doing it. Otherwise we would have this feature by now.

[SolidSnake76]

then wheres the feature?

it cannot be done, you just dont wanna get that into you thick skull. and i didnt vote, does that mean i'm neutral? you dont have to vote if you dont want to wheather you agree or disagree. its called free elections. besides, look at who's voting. they skill got alot to learn about this game and it's engine, you too.

[blockattack]

Go with the hoster's dicision.

[KidKrazyShit]

Quote[/b] (twicecsupreme @ Oct. 21 2005,11:11)]we all agree we this idea.......i think it should be done...

<span style='color:red'>What are you some kind of retard? Did you not see the posts before yours of those AGANIST the idea? Reading is fundamental.</span>

Quote[/b] ((Êli†Ê) @ Oct. 22 2005,7:12)]The host should be the one to select the game speed cause he is the one hosting FINAL.
And the votes don't lie http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

<span style='color:red'>Your logic is omg flawless. =/

I fail to see just b/c one person is hosting the game he/she should be the one to decide the game speed. The hoster already has the advantage, and already gets to choose most of the options for the game. Gotta keep is some what fair. Which is why player 2 gets to choose the game speed.

Actually, votes can lie. Presidential election 2000.</span>

Quote[/b] (Restavega @ Oct. 23 2005,1:16)]First off, you can keep thinking a dozen people know you're right... yeah... I can tell by the poll.............................................

<span style='color:red'>The majority age range of this forum I would guess is 11 - 16. Most having an IQ lower then their shoe size. Children are very impressionable. Also most are too lazy to read beyond the first few posts. So they see your post, and think the first response(yours) is the "best" answer b/c they're far too lazy to actually scroll down and read other posts. Though obviously that's not EVERYONE in that age range.....but the majority. So don't rely souly on the results of your poll. Hell....I wouldn't rely on it at all. But who cares what I think =/</span>

[Ken-Po]

Quote[/b] (KidKrazy**** @ Oct. 24 2005,7:45)]Quote[/b] (twicecsupreme @ Oct. 21 2005,11:11)]we all agree we this idea.......i think it should be done...

<span style='color:red'>What are you some kind of retard? Did you not see the posts before yours of those AGANIST the idea? Reading is fundamental.</span>

Quote[/b] ((Êli†Ê) @ Oct. 22 2005,7:12)]The host should be the one to select the game speed cause he is the one hosting FINAL.
And the votes don't lie http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

<span style='color:red'>Your logic is omg flawless. =/

I fail to see just b/c one person is hosting the game he/she should be the one to decide the game speed. The hoster already has the advantage, and already gets to choose most of the options for the game. Gotta keep is some what fair. Which is why player 2 gets to choose the game speed.

Actually, votes can lie. Presidential election 2000.</span>

Quote[/b] (Restavega @ Oct. 23 2005,1:16)]First off, you can keep thinking a dozen people know you're right... yeah... I can tell by the poll.............................................

<span style='color:red'>The majority age range of this forum I would guess is 11 - 16. Most having an IQ lower then their shoe size. Children are very impressionable. Also most are too lazy to read beyond the first few posts. So they see your post, and think the first response(yours) is the "best" answer b/c they're far too lazy to actually scroll down and read other posts. Though obviously that's not EVERYONE in that age range.....but the majority. So don't rely souly on the results of your poll. Hell....I wouldn't rely on it at all. But who cares what I think =/</span>
Everything you pointed out is valid and somewhat true...
So I think people care for that matter.

[Restavega]

Quote[/b] (KidKrazy**** @ Oct. 24 2005,9:45)]The majority age range of this forum I would guess is 11 - 16. Most having an IQ lower then their shoe size.
We can't have a majority rule if you're going to belittle the forum's credibility. TMyApp is having a using majority rule for EXPERT becoming default in a nearby topic... what you said totally conflicts with TMyApp. The people of this forum are everything. Don't put them down. You and Solid need to quit that. No one here calling you a moron for you to even get offensive with us.

Besides, a persons IQ never changes. So, someone the age of 11 to 16 who takes an IQ test will always get the same score when they take the test as an adult. Which means any 11 year old on this forum can easily be more intelligent than us in terms of IQ so that isn't even an issue. I'm looking at these polls and these posts and everyone wants idea implemented.

Solid, you've established that it cannot be done for technical reasons stated by TMyApp. I acknowledged that response and now, at this point in the discussion, we are speaking hypothetically. If this could be done, why should we have it and why not...? Besides, the future could be a better engine for SFO anyhow. This game only gets better.

[Venomous-Ninja]

Quote[/b] (Restavega @ Oct. 24 2005,4:45)]Quote[/b] (KidKrazy**** @ Oct. 24 2005,9:45)]The majority age range of this forum I would guess is 11 - 16. Most having an IQ lower then their shoe size.
We can't have a majority rule if you're going to belittle the forum's credibility. TMyApp is having a using majority rule for EXPERT becoming default in a nearby topic... what you said totally conflicts with TMyApp. The people of this forum are everything. Don't put them down. You and Solid need to quit that. No one here calling you a moron for you to even get offensive with us.

Besides, a persons IQ never changes. So, someone the age of 11 to 16 who takes an IQ test will always get the same score when they take the test as an adult. Which means any 11 year old on this forum can easily be more intelligent than us in terms of IQ so that isn't even an issue. I'm looking at these polls and these posts and everyone wants idea implemented.

Solid, you've established that it cannot be done for technical reasons stated by TMyApp. I acknowledged that response and now, at this point in the discussion, we are speaking hypothetically. If this could be done, why should we have it and why not...? Besides, the future could be a better engine for SFO anyhow. This game only gets better.
Restavega, that is KKShiz, he is a mod, although I don't think he should have any more say in this then others because of his status...

[KidKrazyShit]

Quote[/b] (Restavega @ Oct. 24 2005,12:45)]
We can't have a majority rule if you're going to belittle the forum's credibility. TMyApp is having a using majority rule for EXPERT becoming default in a nearby topic... what you said totally conflicts with TMyApp. The people of this forum are everything. Don't put them down. You and Solid need to quit that. No one here calling you a moron for you to even get offensive with us.

<span style='color:red'>Offensive? Please. I was making statements. You'll know when I'm being "offensive." Though I doubt you'll ever see it b/c If I actually became offensive with someone I've never met I'd have to kill myself.

So...what you're saying is I'm suppose to be a clone of tmy? Everything he says I'm suppose to agree with? On every issue that occurs my response should be exactly like his? Yeah.....no. You find me two ppl that agree on EVERYTHING and I'll get you a cookie for your troubles.

You're just upset b/c Solid and I are the of guys who say what many ppl are thinking. But don't want to say anything b/c of the chance of confliction/confrontation.</span>

Quote[/b] ]Besides, a persons IQ never changes. So, someone the age of 11 to 16 who takes an IQ test will always get the same score when they take the test as an adult. Which means any 11 year old on this forum can easily be more intelligent than us in terms of IQ so that isn't even an issue. I'm looking at these polls and these posts and everyone wants idea implemented.

<span style='color:red'>Uh...yeah. See, the IQ thing is something you may have run into from time to time. It's called an "expression."
Not ment to be taken as litterally as you've taken it. I'm actually surprised.

But whatever. I was simply handed my two cents to the topic.

Venomous-Ninja: My title has nothing to do with this =/</span>

[SolidSnake76]

Quote[/b] (Restavega @ Oct. 24 2005,6:45)]Quote[/b] (KidKrazy**** @ Oct. 24 2005,9:45)]The majority age range of this forum I would guess is 11 - 16. Most having an IQ lower then their shoe size.
We can't have a majority rule if you're going to belittle the forum's credibility. TMyApp is having a using majority rule for EXPERT becoming default in a nearby topic... what you said totally conflicts with TMyApp. The people of this forum are everything. Don't put them down. You and Solid need to quit that. No one here calling you a moron for you to even get offensive with us.

Besides, a persons IQ never changes. So, someone the age of 11 to 16 who takes an IQ test will always get the same score when they take the test as an adult. Which means any 11 year old on this forum can easily be more intelligent than us in terms of IQ so that isn't even an issue. I'm looking at these polls and these posts and everyone wants idea implemented.
so would you listen to someone who thinks on a 6th grade level.

guy, look at the people on this topic who agrees with you, AGREES WITH YOU.

Quote[/b] (alamgir @ Oct. 21 2005,6:37)]Yeah I agree with you. Afterall its the host's game so it should be the host's rules.
and he's 15

Quote[/b] (y_09 @ Oct. 21 2005,6:42)]agreed
i'd expect more from a 16 year old.

Quote[/b] ({Predator} @ Oct. 21 2005,7:30)]i agree with restavega. makes sense
same thing

Quote[/b] ((-ChOsEn-1-) @ Oct. 21 2005,2:28)]i think the person that hosted the match should be the one to pick the game speed!!
15 also

Quote[/b] (gieandfer @ Oct. 22 2005,8:28)]man u guys are good. i never thought of choosing the speed of the game in the hosting room. im with this idea. the only problem is if youcan trust the hoster cause he might have a fast computer and while u go slow, he goes fast on turbo or normal.
16 also

and thier join dates are 2004 and younger, so expirence also plays a major role. you really expect a bunch of rookies knows what best for the game over a bunch of vets whos been here longer and knows the game way better, inside and out too. and doing something new for a week doesnt make you a immediate black belt, so i dont wanna hear any bullpoop.

they dont have the expirence we have, therefore, they dont know whats entirely best for this game, but since your the smartest of the rookies around in this topic, they will follow you instead of the shiz, and as the shiz stated:

Quote[/b] ]The majority age range of this forum I would guess is 11 - 16. Most having an IQ lower then their shoe size. Children are very impressionable. Also most are too lazy to read beyond the first few posts. So they see your post, and think the first response(yours) is the "best" answer b/c they're far too lazy to actually scroll down and read other posts. Though obviously that's not EVERYONE in that age range.....but the majority. So don't rely souly on the results of your poll. Hell....I wouldn't rely on it at all. But who cares what I think =/

dominicankid disagrees with you, and bandit agrees with him that your wrong. shady agrees with me cause he read what i said and knows i make better sense. everyone else just read the topic's title and said "yes, the hoster should choose" am I right? and from expirence here and in the game, 2 - 3 weeks later, people are gonna cheat, everyone is gonna bitch and moan about it and gonna want it back that the old way again, a waste of tmy's time. and how do we know your not gonna use this to your advantage restavega? hmm?

if you people got the sense enough to read and agree with me, shiz and dominicankid, say so now and say so proud. how are you gonna go through life siding with the first thing you see or hear? get off your asses and read, think and use logic. no, not even logic, common sense. is the game gonna run much better if this idea goes through?

[(Êli†Ê)]

http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/withstupid.gif * * * *http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/withstupid.gif *So you and your oppinion are better and more important than that of others.. Yea right...
I still think restavega is right all the way.
And as a Expert Mode player and gamehoster I have some information to share.

Here is what I do make sure none of these turbo playing n00bs can force me to play turbo in my own game.

I host my game and I call it "Expert Mode Only!!"
I wait for someone to join, when someone joins I tell him once again: "Expert Mode Only!!"
Than I tell him to pick his character fast so he has enough time to pick Expert Mode and I start the game.
I pick my character and helper right away and than I hit the menu button.
It will say something like: End game YES/NO
I keep my mouse on the YES button and wait untill I can see player 2's helper.
When his helper apears his choice between expert or turbo will show.
If I see he picked Expert I will do nottin and let the game start.
If he fails and picks Turbo I press YES and instead of the game starting we will both have to choose our characters again.
I repeat the same procces again, if he chooses Turbo again I press YES again but this time I will return to the chat while he gets kicked from my game. http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif
I open the server and wait for someone else to join.
If the foolish turbo player returns I kick him out right away.
If they wonna play turbo they can go host there own game our join another but it aint happening in my hosted game.
And I dont need em cause most people play choose Expert mode anyway.
You see, these turbo playing n00bs will never have there n00bish ways with me. http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif * http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

[SolidSnake76]

you just dont know how this game operates.

you werent here when the sent force bug was in effect.

you werent here when the RD glitched big time.

you werent here when wolverine's drill claw took 10x more than it should.

you werent here when cyclops was nearly unbeatable.

this can never work, the engine wouldnt manage. it might cause the hoster's room to crash or something. if your gonna suggest a crazy idea, learn the full operation before you destroy something good.

[(Êli†Ê)]

Quote[/b] (SolidSnake76 @ Nov. 01 2005,1:17)]you just dont know how this game operates.

you werent here when the sent force bug was in effect.

you werent here when the RD glitched big time.

you werent here when wolverine's drill claw took 10x more than it should.

you werent here when cyclops was nearly unbeatable.

this can never work, the engine wouldnt manage. it might cause the hoster's room to crash or something. if your gonna suggest a crazy idea, learn the full operation before you destroy something good.
So now your saying that a sfo player has to be here from the start and know the game software and engine before they can state there simple oppinion.
Yeah rii*****....!!! Looks like you still find yourself to be more important than others.
And why you bringing up old stuff anyaway?

You really think you are something else ha...
Did you create SFO? Cause last time I checked it was TMyApp.
Anyway, I am just giving all expert playing hosts some tips to prevent turbo mode from being picked at all.
I'm just sharing man I'm just sharing yo that's all. http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

[SolidSnake76]

Quote[/b] ((Êli†Ê) @ Nov. 01 2005,11:26)]So now your saying that a sfo player has to be here from the start and know the game software and engine before they can state there simple oppinion.
no, i did not mean that.

Quote[/b] ]Yeah rii*****....!!! Looks like you still find yourself to be more important than others.
no i dont, what the hell do you know about me?

Quote[/b] ]And why you bringing up old stuff anyaway?
cause i can, to prove a point. unless you can tell me 5 things you know about this game, nothing basic, i change my views.

Quote[/b] ]You really think you are something else ha...
Did you create SFO? Cause last time I checked it was TMyApp.
like i said, what the hell do you know about me? and the last time i checked, i know a little more about tmy than you will ever know.

hey, i'm just telling the truth and theres plenty of fact within it. this game will go wrong if this idea goes through.

[Windarossa]

You either like the idea or you don't. What's with all the bs? It doesn't matter how much you say you like/don’t like this idea it's not going to change peoples minds either way. So calm down guys before someone says something they shouldn’t and this turns into a real cat fight. Lolz * http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif You guys need to blow some steam off. I suggest you have a nice 2on2!! http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/bigsmile.gif

[SolidSnake76]

woman, the fight started long time ago when i said no.

i been trying to convince them this idea will not work due to technical issues.

[Windarossa]

Quote[/b] (SolidSnake76 @ Nov. 02 2005,8:57)]woman, the fight started long time ago when i said no.

i been trying to convince them this idea will not work due to technical issues.
Why are you trying to convince other people to think a certain way? When in life has that ever worked? You answer me that you man! lolz *http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[SolidSnake76]

because its a fact. not a belief or social thing, this involves technical equipment.

its like a rookie miswiring a house cause he wanted to try something new. next thing you know, the house catches fire.

[Windarossa]

Quote[/b] (SolidSnake76 @ Nov. 02 2005,10:39)]because its a fact. not a belief or social thing, this involves technical equipment.

its like a rookie miswiring a house cause he wanted to try something new. next thing you know, the house catches fire.
Well, if you know it can't be done then why do you care if people want to just discuss the idea, you manimal ? http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[Bandit04]

It seems to me like many people prefer it to be picked in the hosted room instead of at the character selection screen.

Continue voting..

[blanka09]

I'll let you all continue with this endless, otherwise good discussion; but the fact of the matter is it's quite improbable.


Sure we MIGHT be able to pull it off and change the way you choose the settings of the game, but you've played XvsSF, MvsSF, MvsC and all the other games that had capcom mesh in the marve| universe... and the way we have it now is the way they had it.

Since we base THIS game, off that one, it'll be pointless to do it otherwise. It gives this game its originality, and it's not very difficult to follow; except a few times when the game would automatically choose the mode for you http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

What we COULD debate on, is whether or not to change the default mode of the game to expert instead of turbo... now that's a valid arguement I agree with to some extent. But regarding this matter, I'm afraid it's going to always be this way.

[(Shady_vip)^]

Quote[/b] (blanka09 @ Nov. 05 2005,5:45)]Sure we MIGHT be able to pull it off and change the way you choose the settings of the game, but you've played XvsSF, MvsSF, MvsC and all the other games that had capcom mesh in the marve| universe... and the way we have it now is the way they had it.
Thats why we should keep it the way it is. Its a classic you guys I think its fine the way it is.

[(Êli†Ê)]

Quote[/b] (blanka09 @ Nov. 05 2005,5:45)]What we COULD debate on, is whether or not to change the default mode of the game to expert instead of turbo... now that's a valid arguement I agree with to some extent. But regarding this matter, I'm afraid it's going to always be this way.
That would be ok but still I say let the host pick the speed.
I know that in the original games it was always player 1 that picks the speed so since SFO is based on those games I say player 1 should pick the gamespeed.
Regardless wether it's in the chat or at the character select screen does not matter.
But PLAYER 1 should pick the speed and !NOT! player 2 who joins the game.

As for default expert mode:
Expert 82 votes
Turbo 9 votes * * * *
No need for discussion, if you prefer turbo than that's just tough luck http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

[blanka09]

Trust me, if there's anything changing in the game, it won't be the first part of what u just posted. The person being challenged or joining the game would STILL be the person choosing the speed of the game.

And I just loaded my marve| vs Street Fighter, and I can confirm that it's the SECOND player that actually chooses the speed of the game.

So in reality, if there's anything going to be changed it's the... err, I think I'll keep that to myself for now http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

[MeteorRyu5]

Err, this needs to be changed. I just got off fighting a #### fighting about 5 minutes with normal mode.. -_-''
Then I fought a 2on1 Tag and got owned, LITTERALY, just because that #### chose normal, and I got used to that game speed. Either put Expert as default or change the way we choose it.

[blanka09]

And what's so self destructively wrong with playing in normal mode ?? I really don't like it, but the game won't explode if youplay in that mode. And as SSJKarma has proved, some people DO like that mode.

So as long as those ppl exist, things would remain as is http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

[MeteorRyu5]

Its so slow though, all the new kids want to use it, but the more skilled players want to use expert. n00bs will do ANYTHING to win, and that's by going really slow..by the way.. Why do we get to choose helpers on/off timer on/off etc. in the game room, but we can't choose the mode. and as Restavega said on the first page, the selection won't budge sometimes..

[blanka09]

As far as the selection not budging, yeah, we'll fix that when the time comes... but you're in no right to call people who try to win through their own methods noobs.

So you keep on playing the mode you like and let others play the mode they like to play. But I'm giving u facts when I say, the mode selection would ALWAYS remain where it is right now http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

[(Êli†Ê)]

http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/angryfire.gif http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/angryfire.gif*Grrrrrrrrrrrr
*instant transmits himself infront of blanka09 and does ultimate raging demon*

*sees that blanka09's life wont go down and gives up*
At least will have expert mode as default soon, I am sure TMy will keep his word on that.
I'll see you online blanka09... http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

[Restavega]

The community has spoken.

[blanka09]

Theoretically, yeah... they have. But in reality, it ain't happening http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

[(Êli†Ê)]

http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/shocked.gif Now what's that suppose to mean....!!??

[SolidSnake76]

it means democracy aint happening here on this topic boy.

didnt i say that he couldnt do it reguardless?

[Restavega]

Quote[/b] (blanka09 @ Nov. 10 2005,9:08)]Theoretically, yeah... they have. But in reality, it ain't happening http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif
With you being a subordinate that statement lacks substance.

[blanka09]

My statement NEVER lacks substance when it comes to this game. And just for the hell of it, I had a discussion with TMyApp

Quote[/b] ]
blanka09: Let me get one thing straight...

we're never moving the option to choose settings for the game .. as in turbo or expert mode, from the character selection screen to the server room of a hosted ... right ?? Cause I mean, that's not what was discussed as far as the MvsSF blue print

TMyApp: Correctus


Want proof ?? Email the man http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

The only reason I left this topic open was for the respect of good disucssion, and nothing else. The things I say aren't just what I represent but what the people behind the scenes that move the game represent. And if youthink that has no substance, then there's no need for a good discussion either.

[Restavega]

Unless it's TMyApp himself I'll always doubt a statement about the game's future, whether it's from one of his subordinates or not. But you verified it was from him... otherwise I still would've second guessed you. No offense but the way I treat everyone on SFO is as an equal unless you are TMyApp.

[blanka09]

Seriously man, next time I close a topic, do not open it... except you have word from me, another admin or TMyApp.

If you have problems referencing those in power for one reason or the other, that's fine with me; but unfortunately, it doesn't really matter.

There are right ways to do things and wrong ways to do things. I closed a topic and you opened it back, that's outright breaking of rules and crossing of paths. There's a clear difference between my user status and urs, whether you choose to reference it or not, it's still there.

Topic is closed... again, until there's some sort of go ahead to re-open it from another admin or TMyApp.

Open it again, you'll get a warning. Open it a 3rd time, and that'll be a ban.