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BankHead11 01-16-2016 09:18 PM

Dragon Ball Z, GT, Super Mega Thread
 
Who watches the new episodes of Dragon zball? Frieza looking crazy,Vegeta stronger than Goku, Gohan just as weak as Krillin.

Wolfeh 01-16-2016 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BankHead11 (Post 853052)
Who watches the new episodes of Dragon zball? Frieza looking crazy,Vegeta stronger than Goku, Gohan just as weak as Krillin.

The **** is up with that?

Srsly. Can't wait for the next ep... Should be subbed by the time I wake up.

BankHead11 01-16-2016 09:53 PM

It's due to Gohan not training, but I feel like Gohan shouldn't of lost his ability to tap into his other form. Aye, Im happy for Vegeta. When Lord Beerus slapped Bulma it was all bad for him regardless if he was a God or not Vegeta laid hands on Beerus. Now he whooped on Golden Frieza so bad it was ridiculous. I have seen Battle of God's before it came out, it is a good movie but now that we have the Episodes it was pointless even though it was introducing us to Lord Beerus and Whiz.

SSJKarma 01-17-2016 02:01 AM

i am not liking where akira toriyama is leading us....

its like the mona liza is finished yet the author 30 years later decides to add to it...
that just wrecks the thing man...

LuXv 01-17-2016 08:03 AM

I was watching it, but all it did was do the exact same thing the movies did ( with little variation)

what episode is actually New? and beyond what happened in the Movie?

so i can just skip to that, instead of wasting my time

Wolfeh 01-17-2016 08:23 AM

27 is the earth blowing up... So 28 should be season 3.

Wolfeh 01-17-2016 04:46 PM

So, I saw 27 and I approve.

28 marks the beginning of the third arc (Universal Tournament).

bloodpack 01-18-2016 12:46 AM

havent seen it
do they still have that same look that when theyre powering up theyre looking like theyre having some kind of diarrhea?

Wolfeh 01-18-2016 02:01 AM

It's a little more mature than that.

BankHead11 01-18-2016 05:01 AM

Frieza gave Goku an ass beating. Vegeta tore Frieza up but then Frieza blew the world up.

Wolfeh 02-02-2016 03:10 PM

That last ep was the best one yet.

Animation is greatly improved thanks to Toriyama airing out Toei. Story is getting interesting!

Wolfeh 03-06-2016 01:51 PM

Akira is a ****ing genius.

After all this time, Vegeta vs. Freeza.

YES. YES. YES.

Zpower 04-17-2016 01:04 PM

Spoiler alert..... don't read if haven't seen ep 39










DB Super Episode 39 was unbelievable. I've watched everything in the DB universe, and this episode 39 fight ranks right up there with the best of the best. Wow! Super Saiyan God mixed with Kaioken was just epic. DB never ceases to amaze me.

Also, liked the way it was explained how Goku never used Kaioken with Super Saiyan 1-3, because it puts too much strain on the body. Now, with the God(Blue) transfromation, Goku can now finally use his trump card Kaioken which doubles his power level at each interval.

Also, this Hit character is starting to grow on me. What a guy that can go toe to toe with Goku at his max.

If you're a DB fan, go watch ep 39 NOW! You'll be glad you did. :)

Wolfeh 05-18-2016 10:39 PM

This next arc better be better...

DBZ used to be a giant soap opera with miles of character depth.

It's been horribly degraded by rushed storytelling and lackluster fights thrown in for nothing more than fan service.

Black Goku better be all that AND a bag of chips.

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Wolfeh 06-19-2016 12:02 PM

HA.

They just pulled it off, didn't they?

~H~Blaze 08-10-2016 12:22 AM

So I'm going to stop watching. I've seen both battle of the God's, what episode/season should I start from?

LuXv 08-10-2016 10:38 AM

Episode 28 - Universe 6 arc

you should start from here, that is the begging on the next arc and is right after the Frieza resserction arc.

For the most part DBS sucks, I'm unimpressed by the art, animation or stories. Each episode is too short and hardly does any justice but make you have to wait for the next episode (overtime) for the hopes something cool happens.

So far i enjoyed DBGT more than DBS, and thats sad. Plus shouldn't Vegeta be able to go SS3 now that he can freely go SSB smh, i still want to see a SSJ3 Vegeta for the hell of it

Makes no sense he can just skip a whole transformation untouched and go SSJ2 > SSB smh

(i call SS god mode SS Blue btw)

SSJKarma 08-10-2016 03:33 PM

SSBlue is not god. SSRed is ! only goku can go there.

this is why i preffer the manga... they start right away after the frieza movie.
basically the animation series started there to gain time and momentum beofre the mnaga started. because otherwise the show would of started a year later.

LuXv 08-10-2016 04:20 PM

1. Your wrong
2. I believe Vegeta in theory could go there, but he has no real need to since he can go past that

SSB is SSG2 technically, so therefor SSB is indeed SS God just to the next level.

SSRed is the base Sayin God form, while SSB is basically SSGOD2

SSJKarma 08-11-2016 11:02 AM

WRONG !
reality being that toriyama himself isn'T sure what blue is !
and said only that while Blue is considered stronger by goku and vegeta, it is undeniably hard to maintain and hits your stamina a hell of alot. much like goku in SSJ3 form at first. hence why vegeta wasn'T able to defeat Hit becaus ehe had already used up the energy against the small saiyan.

toriyama says that while blue is a better controlling of ki, a better version of the emotions behind it. meaning calmer version of Red. the fury of red and its natural transformation makes the form much easier on the user even though its powered by rage and all. consider it like this. when fture trunks transformed into SS2. he couldn'T read the level and was stuck in between. Blue is just that. more powerfull and faster but sacrificing your stamina in the process. while red is a sustained form that can be held almost forever.

toriyama sees it like this...
Blue is what a super saiyan god would look like if that saiyan god transformed into super again.
so basically its lke stacking super saiyans. The only reason goku goes to that form is to either finish a fight because he doesn't have enough strenght remainng. or because he wants kaioken to be used as well. because in the red form kaioken cannot be used.

this is the actual reasons why nobody at this point knows which form is truly the strongest. blue or red. because both have their ups and downs that must be taken into consideration.

so basically it depends on if vegeta and goku wants a burst of power, aka spike burst. or a sustained damage dealer.

LuXv 08-11-2016 09:34 PM

your wrong, not only was this mentioned in the show it was also told in the DBZ Wiki.

so your wrong.

its okay to be wrong, but just know you are.

both forms Red and blue is a form of SSJ GOD.

MOVING ON, this DBS series is sad, so much filler not enough character development, plus they usually drag what could take place in 1 episode between 2-3.

Killer 08-12-2016 07:43 AM

The interpretation is a little confusing but how I understood it was that SSJ God (the form Goku transformed into via ritual) is weaker than the SSJ Blue transformation.

SSJ Blue has been defined as Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan or SSGSS. Which is what Karma said. Taking the Super Saiyan God form and then going Super Saiyan on top of it. Stamina is depleted significantly during this form.

There is another standard that has been largely ignored in this topic, and is the reason why Goku and Vegeta in base are significantly stronger than everyone in the series (save for Whis and Beerus).

During the refinement of ki/training with Whis, Vegeta and Goku achieved the form "Saiyan Beyond God". A term that represents that they've achieved the SSJ God transformation without the actual transformation. They can channel and sense God Ki without having the transformation active.

EDIT: I think super is moving along just fine. The introduction of Zamasu (and the " black" character) is pretty interesting so far. The animation has gotten better after toriyama chewed out toei animation. There's enough mystic that we don't know what's going on.

I just feel like they're disrespecting a lot of characters that have been around for a significant amount of time. Piccolo is a babysitter. Gohan (despite the highest potential) is useless. I thought after Frieza, he'd be back to training. It's just a massive tease.

SSJKarma 08-12-2016 12:13 PM

LuXv because we all know that wiki is the perfect little things that doesn'T make mistakes or that everything said on the internet is true. go read some toriyama interviews about it. then we'll think about it again. while the anime clearly described it, the manga didn't at all. and the manga are what toriyama does. the animations are mostly fillers up to this point. since the manga actually is barely starting. the anime even in the old days was known to be adding much more fillers then anything. exemple of how long the combats were in the anime while in the manga they were much less.

as for info that i said here... reread your own wiki, cause at least half of what i said is already in there and the wiki itself says the red isn't necessarily weaker. but continu to be the fan boy that you are and continu to think whats in your head is the reality. thats not my style. i preffer to see the vision of the author and not my own vision.

but there is one thing we'll both agree on...

when he'll release Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 3 Blue Red and White which turns into super saiyan 3 Rainbow... we'll both think its even more awesome !

LuXv 08-12-2016 12:18 PM

Hm maybe I'm just expecting too much from DBS.

I do agree how ever that characters are being disrespected, Goku/Vegetas power levels is so far away from the next closest Z fighter that they are basically just used to stall which ever opponent until Goku/Vegeta arrives.

Only character I like outside Goku/Vegeta, Whis/Beerus is HIT.

Wish we seen some new move from Goku/Vegeta, sorta like how SSJ4 had that 10x Red Kamahamaha, something along those lines.

I do admit my favorite moment was seeing Goku go SSB + Kaoken or what ever. PLUS i didn't know they (Trunks) could still transform into that useless Legendary SSJ mode(i think its called). Where he's extremely buff but slower


EDIT: You still wrong Karma, lol

Killer 08-12-2016 01:57 PM

Ascended super Saiyan or something.

Toriyama is actually closely related to the anime. The manga just confirms or denies story points of the anime.

Like Goku switching to SSJ God to avoid the stamina loss of SSJ Blue. Or Hit not leveling up during the fight and extending his timeless. Or the combination of SSJ Blue + Kaioken (which was absolutely lit).

I just appreciate the call back. Like Goku busting out SSJ3 for Trunks during their fight, and Trunks unintentionally trolling Vegeta asking him to transform into SSJ3 lmfao


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