Dream is Dead Open ongoing Fundraiser Battles and Colors.

[veteranlegends]

It's simple
Host a game Called ""Fundraiser, loser donate $5"" ... well assuming people actually have honor want to go for this... we can see how much we can raise.

In addition , as an Elite VIP I will be granting colors for $2 per color donation towards SFO. I will grant your colors within 24 hours.

Please have honor and provide proof of donations.
Below is a sample proof, I donated even though I had a tag team partner and lost to onslaught lol...


Are you in to save SFO?

[donkios]

Damn, Lux.

[Shiny~Latios]

Originally Posted by donkios

Damn, Lux.

Haha

[Rashiznit-X]

im down to give out colors also if u need help

[-Kenshi-]

[Shiny~Latios]

Originally Posted by -Kenshi-

I lost.

Forever.

Of all times.

I concede to you...the internet.

GGS.

[Crazii2TheMax]

Duce here.
And I know y'all going to flame me.
But How do we even know what you're saying is true?
How do we know you haven't been taking money for years and just spending it on yourself personally or your family member that is in a dire situation?
I'm not trying to be cold i'm just trying to instill logic in an emotional topic.
How do we know you're not just looking for a money grab? You said yourself you never really liked the game.

[(SXA)crip]

I dont know if this idea will work, but seems good, and WOW lux

[LuXv]

Bruh my first game back, he RD me by surprise and won with huffy. I beat him the next game

[TitaniumFist]

Veteranlegends, thank you for your donation and efforts. They are greatly appreciated.

Forgive me for rather lengthy response to a nonsensical post in this thread:

Originally Posted by Crazii2TheMax

Duce here.
And I know y'all going to flame me.
But How do we even know what you're saying is true?
How do we know you haven't been taking money for years and just spending it on yourself personally or your family member that is in a dire situation?
I'm not trying to be cold i'm just trying to instill logic in an emotional topic.
How do we know you're not just looking for a money grab? You said yourself you never really liked the game.

Short reply to foolish questions:

He's a decent man who would not lie about something like this. On this side of things, I and others have watched his slow decline in activity all while keeping up face and answering questions and hinting in every topic started to ask about his disappearance that he has fallen on hard times, specifically financially and personally. It was all we were at liberty to say.

In September, 2012 we created a VIP thread detailing pretty much everything TMyApp made known a few days ago, minus the personal hard times - he would not allow us to tell anyone, as he hadn't the time, and it was personal.

That tragic reason was finally made clear. As for the staff, we could guess something had hit him hard, perhaps. But there was no way we could know how hard, or how close.

He doesn't have to prove anything to someone who would ask if he's using his loved one's debilitating condition to collect cash.

For anyone else, though, donations are a gift. A gift given by those who care. A gift given by those who trust that their donation will not be squandered, used wisely, or to benefit someone less fortunate than themselves. Someone who's given a community life for over a decade.

If there is no trust that these donations will not be used wisely, or are not needed, then the donator should not donate. Period.

That is logic.

Long reply for a foolish person:

Duce, I don't know you personally, but you are a troll and an instigator. (That is my opinion as well as proven fact based on your actions over the years)

In some debate where there are two sides, if you see an opportunity to present the other side of that argument that's not being addressed, that's fine. That's logic.

But if you see a man who has carried this community on his shoulders for over a decade (a very private man who never stops to complain or talk about his burdens publicly unless they affect the community and game), take the time to post his story after two years of absence, declining game updates, declining activity addressing what used to be simple requests (perk transfers, front page updates, etc) you do not have the right to create a fictitious 'logic' or 'other side of the argument'.

There is no argument. It's hard to really say you know anyone online, perhaps. But I know TMyApp a whole lot better than I do you. I've worked with him. I trust him.

Since you aren't a VIP, like many others, you missed that thread. You missed our entire effort to try and keep SFO from reaching this breaking point. So much for your logic of fleecing the community for cash. Had that been his intent, the topic would have been made public from the beginning. (If needed, the topic will be moved to the public - with datestamps, and posts from all who were there).

It isn't that he simply asked for donations; it's that he took the time, this very private man, to tell this community a part of his story - his life.
Your questions deserve no answer, or a place in any topic related to TMyApp's situation, the decline of the community or the game. They aren't even real questions or logic. They're random kernels of doubt you've tossed into the mix. Posing your nonsense questions as logical, or reasonable doesn't actually make them reasonable.

Duce, you have already been banned, and now you're accessing another member's account to participate in the forum. The member's account will likewise be banned as it breaks our forum rules.

This is purely my opinion, but you must either be a very heartless or very miserable person.

Reiteration for the not so foolish people: Again, if any genuine person doubts TMyApp's story, the answer is simple: don't donate a dime. If you still use real logic, you'll realize you were never being forced to do that in the first place.

Any donations are your choice, and yours alone. Use your heart and your head.

[Rashiznit-X]

Originally Posted by TitaniumFist

Veteranlegends, thank you for your donation and efforts. They are greatly appreciated.

Forgive me for rather lengthy response to a nonsensical post in this thread:



Short reply to foolish questions:

He's a decent man who would not lie about something like this. On this side of things, I and others have watched his slow decline in activity all while keeping up face and answering questions and hinting in every topic started to ask about his disappearance that he has fallen on hard times, specifically financially and personally. It was all we were at liberty to say.

In September, 2012 we created a VIP thread detailing pretty much everything TMyApp made known a few days ago, minus the personal hard times - he would not allow us to tell anyone, as he hadn't the time, and it was personal.

That tragic reason was finally made clear. As for the staff, we could guess something had hit him hard, perhaps. But there was no way we could know how hard, or how close.

He doesn't have to prove anything to someone who would ask if he's using his loved one's debilitating condition to collect cash.

For anyone else, though, donations are a gift. A gift given by those who care. A gift given by those who trust that their donation will not be squandered, used wisely, or to benefit someone less fortunate than themselves. Someone who's given a community life for over a decade.

If there is no trust that these donations will not be used wisely, or are not needed, then the donator should not donate. Period.

That is logic.

Long reply for a foolish person:

Duce, I don't know you personally, but you are a troll and an instigator. (That is my opinion as well as proven fact based on your actions over the years)

In some debate where there are two sides, if you see an opportunity to present the other side of that argument that's not being addressed, that's fine. That's logic.

But if you see a man who has carried this community on his shoulders for over a decade (a very private man who never stops to complain or talk about his burdens publicly unless they affect the community and game), take the time to post his story after two years of absence, declining game updates, declining activity addressing what used to be simple requests (perk transfers, front page updates, etc) you do not have the right to create a fictitious 'logic' or 'other side of the argument'.

There is no argument. It's hard to really say you know anyone online, perhaps. But I know TMyApp a whole lot better than I do you. I've worked with him. I trust him.

Since you aren't a VIP, like many others, you missed that thread. You missed our entire effort to try and keep SFO from reaching this breaking point. So much for your logic of fleecing the community for cash. Had that been his intent, the topic would have been made public from the beginning. (If needed, the topic will be moved to the public - with datestamps, and posts from all who were there).

It isn't that he simply asked for donations; it's that he took the time, this very private man, to tell this community a part of his story - his life.
Your questions deserve no answer, or a place in any topic related to TMyApp's situation, the decline of the community or the game. They aren't even real questions or logic. They're random kernels of doubt you've tossed into the mix. Posing your nonsense questions as logical, or reasonable doesn't actually make them reasonable.

Duce, you have already been banned, and now you're accessing another member's account to participate in the forum. The member's account will likewise be banned as it breaks our forum rules.

This is purely my opinion, but you must either be a very heartless or very miserable person.

Reiteration for the not so foolish people: Again, if any genuine person doubts TMyApp's story, the answer is simple: don't donate a dime. If you still use real logic, you'll realize you were never being forced to do that in the first place.

Any donations are your choice, and yours alone. Use your heart and your head.

i agree with u 100% it was just stupid for his post

i remmember that thread and i did my best to find new plays to sponsor and made them all vip then the amount of dem declined so i didnt keep giving much i was waiting on yglm facebook winner to sponor them but he never let me know who won i havent yet donaed to this cause because we both kno im working on somthing but if that doesnt work ill have a nice sum for u

[SSJKarma]

people, if you are not sure what you are donating for... read TMyApp's own FAQ about donations... you'll notice that he gives you all the reasons "NEVER" to donate to him. thats not counter-thinking or whatever bull**** you wanna call it, he was serious by giving you those reasons.

TMyAp doesn't want you to donate he even said it himself in his thread.

as far as i am concerned, he asked for divine intervention, not the communities intervention which to him will simply delay the inevitable at this point. im thinking the same right now. but im not gonna stop people from trying if thats what they want to. if you dont want to, then why are you crying about it, just dont do it, point final. you lose nothing you gian nothing, thats what we call a safe course of action.

thats all there is to it.

[FadeToBlack]

Originally Posted by Crazii2TheMax

Duce here.
And I know y'all going to flame me.
But How do we even know what you're saying is true?
How do we know you haven't been taking money for years and just spending it on yourself personally or your family member that is in a dire situation?
I'm not trying to be cold i'm just trying to instill logic in an emotional topic.
How do we know you're not just looking for a money grab? You said yourself you never really liked the game.

Yeah alot of guys that have moved on from SFO for along time that i still talk to, and I tell them about this they say something similar to this or the samething. I have my doubts myself also.

Back on topic though, if anyway wants colors i have them if needed.

[Noobkiller]

Originally Posted by veteranlegends

Host a game Called ""Fundraiser, loser donate $5"" ... well assuming people actually have honor want to go for this... we can see how much we can raise.

I'm up for this, how many games would you like to play @ veteranlegends